Thier wouldn't be any action mods required to do the Whelen,just rebarrel and enjoy. of muzzle energy. An elk is bigger than anything most deer hunters have encountered, but theres still a variance; a cow for the freezer isnt much bigger than a very large deer, but a mature bull elk is different. Make no mistake, the .30-06 is a powerful cartridge, but it doesnt beat you to death and can be built in the seven- to eight-pound range. but it does have the 22" barrel and the irons , looks and feels like a MTN rifle to me. Back in 1983 Winchester introduced the .356 Win. Right now, I think that the Browning BLR lever-action rifle is the only production gun left on the market in .358 Win. The main problem with such potent cartridges is that they kick hard in rifles light enough to carry all day in steep places. cases. Compare the Queen of the .35's, the .350 Remington Magnum--the original short (.308 length) magnum cartridge--with the new generation of short action magnums. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. Norma loads their 250-grain Oryx bullet to this velocity, and as the rear portion of the bullet is bonded, it will give an excellent blend of expansion and penetration. In the entry on the .358 Norma, it maintains that, had Norma convinced a major American riflemaker to offer the chambering in the early years, it could have become one of the greats. Its safe to say that of all the .358 Norma Magnum rifles in existence, there are more custom than factory ones, and this makes it tricky to load for in another way. The Remington Model 673 Guide Rifle was chambered in .350 Rem. Between the .25s and the .35s are dozens of cartridges that are versatile and suitable. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. can drive the same weight bullet a bit faster. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? Does the power of the magnum offer much over the whelen in real life terms? in a rimmed cartridge that would work in a lever-action rifle. and is probably a better deer and black bear cartridge at woods ranges than the more popular .30-30 Win. The .358 Win. For the one perfect all-around elk rifle, Im not sure you can beat the good old .30-06. The bullet was the then-new Trophy Bonded 250-grain Bear Claw. The .358 Norma established its reputation in high-end hunting rifles like this Schultz & Larsen Model 65DL. In more recent times, the 1994 release of the .450 Rigby gave dangerous game hunters a bit more bullet weight than the .416 Rigby and has developed a small but devout following among both professional hunters and their clients alike. For anyone with an experimental or fanciful turn of mind, the .358 Norma and the many .358-inch diameter bullets are a gold mine. I have built all 3 several times for various customers and owned both the 358 Norma and the 9.3X62. What keeps it alive? Equal in importance is that you can hit the elk. and the 6.5 mm Rem. From limited experience of loading for two different 358 Norma Magnum rifles (a Schultz & Larson Model 65 and a Custom Sako AV) I used to neck up new Winchester 338 Win. Mag. The bullet went in behind the near shoulder, struck the far shoulder from the inside, and the blue bull hit the ground with a thud. For example, take the most powerful of the factory standardized .35's, the .358 Norma Magnum. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. The .357 Magnum is ideal for light game like javelina and will do for the smaller species of deer and antelope at short range. It will work in this action with ease and will be plenty cheap to feed and use if one simply sizes up 338 brass and goes along thier happy way. 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I am often criticized for following the Elmer Keith school in suggesting powerful cartridges. Remington loads a 200-grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2775 f.p.s. Gun guys recognize the potential in the .358. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. They are a little short initially and after two firings they were just fine. Original Schultz & Larsens had substantial freebore to keep pressures down, and Normas specifications for the cartridge called for it. The .358 Norma Magnum is a rifle cartridge introduced in 1959 by Norma. The .35 Whelen is a necked up medium bore wildcat cartridge that was created by necking up a .30-06 Springfield case which is famously overpowered for the 30-caliber bullet it propels. Although such weight is rare, a big bull can exceed 1,000 pounds. I say that because so many reasonably successful yet hard kicking cartridges have been introduced in the last few years. These include some of my favorites, such as the .358 Winchester and .45-70. For more specialized uses, Speer makes a 180-grain flatpoint (semispitzer)that, with reduced loads, turns the .358 Norma Magnum into a pussycat for recoil but is easily capable of handling game such as black bears and white-tailed deer out to 250 yards or so. Spl. They include both the AccuBond and the Partition 225-grain bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. .470 Nitro Express. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. Have all three, and have not shot any of em My medium is a 9,3x62. Ive obviously left the door wide open. Shaw rifle's 24-inch barrel.. Either way, the Newton is the unbelted twin of the .358 Norma. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. The Hornady Superformance load for the .35 Whelen launches a 200-grain bullet at a blistering. It arrived with three other cartridges designed to compete with Winchesters popular lever-action lineup. At the same time, it will do almost everything the .375 will but with vastly more versatility. No, its not exactly easy on the shoulder, but its not terrible either. Back in the late 70's I picked up a custom 1903 in 358 Norma Mag, awesome rifle, very accurate and it put a thump on deer, I bought it hopping to get a moose tag back in MN, never did and sold the rifle. Meanwhile, the .358 Norma fizzled, for lack of a better term, because rifles were not readily available, ammunition was expensive and hard to get, and it found itself in direct competition with one of the great American cartridges of the twentieth century, Winchesters .338 Magnum. Most were intended for .38-caliber handguns, but any bullet made for either the .38 Special or .357 Magnum can be loaded and shot in the .358 Norma Magnum with varying degrees of success. The rifle, cartridge, and bullet must be capable of handling that one opportunity. 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With a 200-grain bullet at 2460 f.p.s., it is a heavy-hitter on whitetails. This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. Kynoch was a big producer of .350 ammo, but that has ceased in the recent past. of energy at the muzzle. Of the three, only the .358 Norma has not become a standard chambering. They truly were ahead of their time, as they were short magnums back when being a short magnum wasnt cool. Cartridges of .25 caliber and below are not ideal elk cartridges, especially if a big bull is a potential. Todays Norma factory ammunition is loaded with the companys excellent bonded-core 250-grain Oryx. Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. Like most of the children of the Holland & Holland parents, the .358 Norma uses its shoulder for headspacing, rather than the belt, as do the .375 and .300 H&H. In a letter written to friend Townsend Whelen during early 1920s, Leslie Simpson-- one of the first Americans to become a professional hunter in Africa--opined that the hunting world needed a .35 caliber cartridge . All Rights Reserved. Most ammunition makers have a 200-grain load, and Remington also has a 150-grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2300 f.p.s. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. However, that may be changing, or at least the possibility of change may exist. I could get brass easy from each by forming parent cases, 308 and 30-06. Boltface would have to be altered for the Norma. G. Joined: Sep 2009. Synthetic stocks arent always lighter than wood, but they are stronger and more stable, and elk hunting can be hard on rifles. Unlike either the .338 or .375, the .35 (.358-inch) has been a standard American caliber since 1900. i have a 35 whelen and love it. A medium variable in the 3-9X or 2.5-10X range should be enough scope for elk hunting. This is because it was discontinued in the mid-1970s, and reintroduced by Remington in 2003. From a 12 twist bore, accuracy sweet spots for light bullets include 2950fps with 180 grain bullets, 2925fps with 200 grain bullets, before normalizing with 225 grain bullets at 2900fps. The .35 Whelen is a fine elk cartridge. I believe it never will. Copyright 2003, 2012 by Chuck Hawks. Mag. And Barnes makes a 200-grain TSX bullet designed for this cartridge that, when handloaded to 2850 f.p.s., allows the .350 Rem. But there is another Rigby cartridge, vastly overlooked even among rifle cranks, but which was at one time as popular as the .375 H&H Magnum: the .350 Rigby Magnum. and a 250-grain Partition load with a muzzle velocity of 2550 f.p.s. That list, by the way, is in ascending order of power. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. For the next year, comparisons were inevitable between Johanssons Hammer of Thor and the .358s powerful 250-grain bullet. But the .416 is certainly not the only cartridge to bear the Rigby surname; read the works of Walter Dalrymple Maitland Karamoja Bell, or Col. Jim Corbett and the .275 Rigbybetter known as the 7x57mm Mauserwill get all sorts of praise. In fact, the recoil of the .358 Norma Magnum, at about 35 ft. lbs. Have a .350 Rem Mag, building a .358 Win currently, would prefer to do the .358 Norma if possible but not sure if this action can handle it.Anyone? Griffin & Howe developed the semiwildcat .350 G&H based on the .375 H&H case, as well as pioneering the .35 Whelen. DoubleTap loads the 180-grain Barnes TTSX bullet at 3100 fps, and the 225-grain Swift A-Frame at 3000 fps, giving options to the hunter who wants the most versatility from their big-game rifle. In addition, for stopping the big predators of the world, it's hard to beat a suitable .35 caliber rifle. The .358 Norma Magnum, like the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan, generates a considerable amount of energy, but due to the caliber restrictions for dangerous game of most of the African countries, it falls shy of the markthe .375-inch bore is minimum for many countries. Compare practically any small bore cartridge (.32 caliber or less) with a .35 caliber cartridge of similar powder capacity and the result is pretty much the same. Maybe I'll just get a 375 H+H instead of going the Norma route. The rivalry between the .338-inch and .358-inch bore diameters has a considerable history; both topped out at 300 grains (at one point in time in history), and both have a lower end of 180 grains. Among my own favorites for the .358 Norma are the Nosler Partitions in both 225 and 250 grains, Swift A-Frames (225, 250, 280) and various Woodleighs, including the unique 310-grain Weldcore. The 600 Magnum suffered from a barrel that was too short at 18 inches. And with modern powders and loads, it knocks on the door of the .300 WSM and .300 Winchester Magnum. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. up to 0.358 inches and dubbed it the poor mans magnum.. My favorite hunting round. As it was released in the first century of the . These are elk cartridges, and as Jack Atcheson Jr. likes to say, the .338 numbs them. Of them all the one I still have is the 9,3X62. Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING magazine, Kevin Steele is at the Steiner Optics booth with Alberto Corbetta to discuss the Predator 4 and Predator 8. With modern powders the muzzle velocities can certainly beat those of the Cordite loads a century ago, especially in a modern rifle. Here in North America, you could take the .350 Rigby anywhere youd take the .35 Whelen or .358 Norma Magnum, and that includes north to Alaska for the great bears. Just have it rebarreled to 9.3X62, and you will have a 358 Norma with five in the magazine! The origins of the .35 Whelen are controversial even today. That being said, with much wider availability, and the higher . The .35 Whelen fires a larger .358 bullet and is therefore right at the cusp of being a big game caliber and is capable of handling everything except .